Comments on: Chinese Printers Play Dirty in Stealing US Customers http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/ Printing, Publishing, and Observations Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:40:00 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: health insurance http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-825 health insurance Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:42:44 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-825 "USA to China... Hey Brother, can you spare 20 trillion to get me through? China to USA... All your base are belong to us." “USA to China… Hey Brother, can you spare 20 trillion to get me through? China to USA… All your base are belong to us.”

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]]> By: Bill http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-820 Bill Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:22:38 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-820 Lloyd, I don't buy the excuse that American businesses HAVE to behave in the way you described to force lower prices to stay in business. They may say that's the reason and then pay their executives exorbitantly. They are beating them up to buy mansions for the few is my impression. As for printing, that isn't true. It isn't giant conglomerations forcing a low ball price. It is China, Pakistan, and India luring our business away with prices we can't possibly match. Minimum wage here is 10X greater than what they pay their workers according to Reuters. If my expenses are 1/10th of my competition, I can sell it for 50-60% less and make a whale of a profit. That is unfair competition, and doesn't help the workers at all. It makes the businesses in those countries rich and drives our businesses out. Lloyd,

I don’t buy the excuse that American businesses HAVE to behave in the way you described to force lower prices to stay in business. They may say that’s the reason and then pay their executives exorbitantly. They are beating them up to buy mansions for the few is my impression.

As for printing, that isn’t true. It isn’t giant conglomerations forcing a low ball price. It is China, Pakistan, and India luring our business away with prices we can’t possibly match. Minimum wage here is 10X greater than what they pay their workers according to Reuters. If my expenses are 1/10th of my competition, I can sell it for 50-60% less and make a whale of a profit. That is unfair competition, and doesn’t help the workers at all. It makes the businesses in those countries rich and drives our businesses out.

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]]> By: Lloyd Lofthouse http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-819 Lloyd Lofthouse Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:14:38 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-819 Behind most products that are manufactured outside the United States is an American businessperson or company like Apple, Home Depot or Wal-Mart. These companies tell the Chinese manufacturer to do it for this price or else, so the Chinese businessperson cuts corners, pays low waged and does what he is told to get the business and he has to cut corners to do it. Think Wal-Mart and all that we hear about their predatory practices. Imagine what they tell their Chinese managers and the fear that comes with the threats. We live in a global economy and to compete, American companies must go where the prices allow them to stay in business. The small guy loses. Survival of the fittest and all that. And the Chinese workers in those factories may be earning low pay but it is more than they made in the rural villages where 800 million Chinese live in poverty earning far less. That is one reason why so many Chinese are flowing into the manufacturing centers from the countryside. What they get paid, may not seem like much but to them it is much more than they could earn scratching a living from the dirt growing a crop. I find it disturbing that China often gets the blame while many countries like India, Pakistan, etc. are cutting prices and paying low wages to get the contracts from American corporations. How much does an American working for GM make on an assembly line and that worker doesn't even need a high school education? I understand that Ford has factories in South America that are more automated and competitive than factories in America because Unions won't allow them to build factories like that in the United States so American auto workers can keep being over paid for a low skilled job. Behind most products that are manufactured outside the United States is an American businessperson or company like Apple, Home Depot or Wal-Mart. These companies tell the Chinese manufacturer to do it for this price or else, so the Chinese businessperson cuts corners, pays low waged and does what he is told to get the business and he has to cut corners to do it.

Think Wal-Mart and all that we hear about their predatory practices. Imagine what they tell their Chinese managers and the fear that comes with the threats.

We live in a global economy and to compete, American companies must go where the prices allow them to stay in business. The small guy loses. Survival of the fittest and all that. And the Chinese workers in those factories may be earning low pay but it is more than they made in the rural villages where 800 million Chinese live in poverty earning far less. That is one reason why so many Chinese are flowing into the manufacturing centers from the countryside. What they get paid, may not seem like much but to them it is much more than they could earn scratching a living from the dirt growing a crop.

I find it disturbing that China often gets the blame while many countries like India, Pakistan, etc. are cutting prices and paying low wages to get the contracts from American corporations. How much does an American working for GM make on an assembly line and that worker doesn’t even need a high school education?

I understand that Ford has factories in South America that are more automated and competitive than factories in America because Unions won’t allow them to build factories like that in the United States so American auto workers can keep being over paid for a low skilled job.

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]]> By: insurance http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-817 insurance Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:14:57 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-817 I had a family member that worked as a senior member of the IMF. (International Monetary Fund). They only accept payment from member countries in GOLD. They do not accept payment in local currencies. They only exchange gold for local currencies in order to fend off a local banking crisis. You can google this. The big banking boys know what real wealth preservation is. They setup their own safeguards to include a gold reserve, not a paper reserve. China, India and the US are huge gold holders. They don't liquidate Fort Knox to pay federal debt, they just whip up a new batch of paper. I had a family member that worked as a senior member of the IMF. (International Monetary Fund). They only accept payment from member countries in GOLD. They do not accept payment in local currencies. They only exchange gold for local currencies in order to fend off a local banking crisis. You can google this. The big banking boys know what real wealth preservation is. They setup their own safeguards to include a gold reserve, not a paper reserve. China, India and the US are huge gold holders. They don’t liquidate Fort Knox to pay federal debt, they just whip up a new batch of paper.

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]]> By: Joe the Printer http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-814 Joe the Printer Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:41:04 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-814 I liked your article on the Chinese...how true. Check out what the former President of American Color is up to. http://www.gslusa.com/about-gsl.htm Strategic Partners: http://www.gslusa.com/strategic-partners.htm Not very American at all! Thanks! I liked your article on the Chinese…how true.

Check out what the former President of American Color is up to.
http://www.gslusa.com/about-gsl.htm

Strategic Partners:
http://www.gslusa.com/strategic-partners.htm

Not very American at all!

Thanks!

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]]> By: Tony Greg http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-812 Tony Greg Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:41:56 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-812 I am totally agree with Robert Noonan. i also saw these type of stupid agreements. This thing not only disturbing printing industry but also disturbing almost every manufacturer in U.S. I am totally agree with Robert Noonan. i also saw these type of stupid agreements. This thing not only disturbing printing industry but also disturbing almost every manufacturer in U.S.

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]]> By: Chinese Printers Play Dirty in Stealing US Customers | Talking Through My Hat « Printing Tips and Solutions http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-810 Chinese Printers Play Dirty in Stealing US Customers | Talking Through My Hat « Printing Tips and Solutions Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:31:47 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-810 [...] Chinese Printers Play Dirty in Stealing US Customers | Talking Through My Hat. [...] [...] Chinese Printers Play Dirty in Stealing US Customers | Talking Through My Hat. [...]

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]]> By: What's Immoral About Printing a Book in China? | Chicken Scratchings http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-808 What's Immoral About Printing a Book in China? | Chicken Scratchings Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:16:58 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-808 [...] won’t expound on the China problem in this post, but please go to my post Chinese Printers Play Dirty In Stealing US Customers for more [...] [...] won’t expound on the China problem in this post, but please go to my post Chinese Printers Play Dirty In Stealing US Customers for more [...]

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]]> By: Gregory preiser http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-807 Gregory preiser Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:24:46 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-807 This was a very well written article outstanding points and so so so so so true family community state and country......... Then cones the world best article in this group in a long time This was a very well written article

outstanding points

and so so so so so true

family community state and country……… Then cones the world

best article in this group in a long time

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]]> By: Robert Noonan http://www.billprintbroker.com/2010/02/chinese-printers-play-dirty-and-steal-us-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Robert Noonan Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:41:03 +0000 http://www.billprintbroker.com/?p=2511#comment-806 Another problem we have is uneven trade agreements. From what I read, China taxes our goods at 25 1/2%. Their goods coming here are taxed at 2%. What idiot would make an agreement like this and sell out the U.S. All trade agreements must be investigated and extract an explanation from those guilty of creating such insanity. It sounds like payoff to me. Through this taxing we give China billions of dollars then they loan it to us increasing our debt when we should keep it for ourselves. Another problem we have is uneven trade agreements. From what I read, China taxes our goods at 25 1/2%. Their goods coming here are taxed at 2%. What idiot would make an agreement like this and sell out the U.S. All trade agreements must be investigated and extract an explanation from those guilty of creating such insanity. It sounds like payoff to me. Through this taxing we give China billions of dollars then they loan it to us increasing our debt when we should keep it for ourselves.

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